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So True with Caleb Hearon

Lilly Wachowski is Hosting Thanksgiving

So True with Caleb Hearon 511K subscribers

11/27/2025

Welcome! This week’s guest is the legendary Lilly Wachowski! Lilly and Caleb talk making a movie together, living in Chicago, the lasting legacy of The Matrix films, the importance of queer art in this day and age, stew, and so much more!

Lilly has no social media! Happy Thanksgiving!

Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud

So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan. So True is engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.